by Ian Enterline
When is it going to end?
We’ve bailed out Fannie and Freddie. AIG now belongs to the U.S. Government. Now we’re bailing out half of the investment banking sector. Big Auto now wants a bailout as well.
How much of our money is our federal government going to spend bailing out companies who have made poor decisions?
Fannie and Freddie were both created under a federal charter, and were directed by law to provide “affordable housing”. And whenever you hear “affordable housing”, that means making sure people get mortgages who can never afford them in the first place. This problem can be blamed on members of both parties in the Congress and the Bush Administration. Both Democrats and Republicans (fiscal Republicans are the minority) love to tax and spend money that isn’t theirs. They love to look like they are doing things “for the people”. What ends up happening is that organizations like Fannie and Freddie are forced to make bad loans, and then when they come due and the people who took them out can’t pay them anymore, the rest of us are left footing the bill.
Democrats though were out there saying Bush hadn’t provided “enough oversight”. Enough oversight? These were two organizations who were heavily supervised by a federal agency known as the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight. Sounds Orwellian, but two government-started institutions, overseen by a government-run institution, are now themselves government-run institutions. Yeah, that’s a solution. When are people going to realize that the problem started when the government became involved in the mortgage industry. And the solution is the government running the entire industry(or at least a large majority of it)?
Now it’s all cascaded through the markets. I’m not a rocket scientist when it comes to all things Wall Street, but I know bad financial planning when I see it. I would not be able to survive if I tried to “balance” my checkbook like the federal government does. I think I’m gonna go down to the credit union, and pull all my money out, go and spend it, then ask the government if they will bail me out.
Not likely to happen.
I think the Founding Fathers are turning in their graves. Anyone with a cursory knowledge of American history (I know, it’s not really taught anymore in public schools, and when it is, it is usually negative) would know that the Founders wanted a “weak” federal government. However, the federal government continues to grow and grow, and no one in either party is willing to stand up and say “enough”.
I live in Richmond, VA and work as a firefighter, but I try to make as many trips back to Erie is as humanly and financially feasible.
Mixing Erie and politics can be dicey, but I'm gonna try to do it here!
Dale
September 19th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Ian, I’m a registered Republican, and I will be the first to stand up and say ENOUGH. Oh I forgot, we who actually worked for a living really don’t count for anything, do we?
By the way, my wife and I cross registered so we could still have a say in the primaries, but our votes would cancel each other. We’re really 100% Independent voters.
Tim
September 19th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
I agree with Dale. I’ve been a lifelong Republican and I am sick and tired of all these bailouts. Don’t worry Dale, I worked for a living as well and I also don’t count for anything.
It’s actually tragic, McCain and Obama are going around making all these promises they won’t be able to keep. McCain…there goes his tax cut (can’t afford it after all these damn bailouts!) Obama?…well, let’s just say he now doesn’t have the money to pay for all his planned social programs.
As for me? I’m getting ready for the “mother of all tax increases!” anyone who thinks after what happened that the next President won’t raise taxes is either living in fantasyland or doesn’t want to face reality.
Thank you President Bush! (You’ve left quite a legacy, sir!)
Hillman
September 20th, 2008 at 1:43 am
These taxpayer bailouts are downright wrong. These clowns in Congress are nothing more than irresponsible politicians with their best interest in mind instead of the people who actually pay the taxes. It’s pretty safe to say that our formerly free market country has taken one big giant step into Barack Obama’s beloved socialism.
This Freddie Mac / Fannie Mae fiasco just didn’t happen over night either. This all started during the Clinton administration when these financial agencies were forced by government to provide mortgages to non-creditworthy borrowers. All the while, Clinton cronies with no financial expertise whatsoever, were put in charge of these agencies while Democrat hacks Barney Frank and Chris Dodd oversaw the entire scam.
This whole mess is a disgrace and Bush should have insisted on putting and end to it years ago when he first warned congress these agencies were on the path to insolvency. Ditto John McCain who also realized what was taking place. But those two rubes, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, right up until a few days ago, insisted nothing was wrong and nothing needed to be fixed while everyone filled their pockets with salaries and bonuses fit for a king.
I personally think our government is so out of control it’s beyond repair. The country is too divided and all the politicians want to do is point fingers of blame on everyone but themselves while we taxpayers foot the bill for their incompetence.
Vito Randazzo
September 20th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Ian,
I agree with enough is enough. Whats next? The Auto Industry, How about Wal-Mart? Unfortuntately, how ever you try to cover it up, it’s going to get worse before it’s better. We have oursleves to blame. Period. In regards to those who succombed to the mortgage crisis, people should know what they can afford and what they cant afford. The economy as it is present day is a result of years of mis management of $$$ and now it has come to bite us in the ass.
Just a thought………
Vito
Mike
September 21st, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Once again, the working taxpayer who does everything the way it should be done is going to have to cover for someone who doesn’t. It’s basically like we’re paying for corporate welfare. I’m convinced like the other posters that the government no longer serves the interest of the working people.
Remember, a government that is powerful enough to give you everything is also powerful enough to take it away.
Danny Lucas
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:22 am
“Working Taxpayer”/ Gimme a break.
In the election of 1960, a West Virginia, coal miner, likely a campaign plant, approached John Kennedy and said
“I was told you never had to work a day in your life”.
Kennedy admitted his wealth and said it was true (about no work).
The miner replied: “Well, I just want you to know one thing.
“You ain’t missing anything!”. And they laughed.
Taxpayers hit with this ? TRUE.
Working taxpayers? Get real.
You die; you pay tax.
Make a phone call, win the lottery, your horse come in at the Downs, stocks go up, get an inheritance, and zillions of other ways besides “work” all pay tax. Why should the worker get a reservation in the sympathy line?
Sometimes, crap happens like Katrina.
Sometimes, unfair competition (or bad management or union shenanigans) kills Chrysler and the government bails out the company with a LOAN. Lee Iacocca paid it back 100% and before it was due. I have no trouble with that in many cases.
I have lots of trouble with the current bailout while execs are getting bonuses for bilking the public.
We are damned if we do; and damned if we don’t.
The system collapses unless what is being done, is done.
BUT, the folks who created this pickle need to go to jail as a deterrent to more of the same (ask Jeff Skilling of Enron if he will behave now).
And, SHAREHOLDERS would get zero without bailout.
Well then, they should pay back too and this should all be a LOAN, not bailout. Interest free for the first year; then a fair interest “to the people” thereafter.
Regulation would be nice again too. Ponzi shemes are illegal and add up to this mess; but they rarely get prosecuted so we get more of the same.
Speculators are running oil up for a new bubble right now while the Wall Street proctologist is busy in New York with close examination of all the holes there.
CRANK
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:02 am
I guess when it comes to these bailouts, my main concern is what caused them in the first place. Congress wanting to relax credit restrictions to make those who didn’t qualify for a loan, suddenly now qualify for loans they had no ability to repay. Now those same congressmen are blaming the industry for doing congress’s bidding. No mention however, in the media, about the threats by congress directed towards those in the lending industry not inclined to favor the relaxation of credit.
Worse yet, is the almost total lack of coverage of reform efforts stymied by influential members of congress, the worst of which is Chris Dodd. Dodd ought to be purpwalked out of Washington, somewhat like his old man. Just as bad, if not worse, than his old man. And the house is no better, with guys like Barney Frank and Charlie Rangle in partnership with Dodd to protect Freddie and Fanny, in exchange for campagin money. Now these same guys want to deflect responsibility by demanding more oversight, and the media is letting it pass. Rush and Hannity are right. 2008 is the year journalism died.
Danny Lucas
September 25th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Gee CRANK, I am astonished that there is even a hint that journalism died in 2008.
Governor Palin came out of nowhere and we are all dying to learn about what type of president she will make.
(I have a feeling she would run Mccain, just like Cheyney runs Bush anyway).
Here is journalism on Palin this week to inform the electorate on what flavor ice cream she and her kids enjoy. (I kid you not! This is the best they could come up with as a national concern)
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“Footage captured the Palins being greeted by cheering supporters and mingling with customers without the uncomfortable presence of reporters shouting questions at Palin. The campaign later sent them an email detailing the flavors of ice cream each ordered.
“Piper had Oreo Overload. Willow (14) had Birthday Cake Mix (sic). Todd had chocolate with peanut butter. Gov. Palin also had Birthday Cake Mix (sic).”
The flavors did not appear in many accounts of the Palins trip to Florida.”
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Source:Wednesday, September 24th, 2008
(as Mccain suspends his campaign)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080924/pl_politico/13823;_ylt=ArZDSllcBxmVstiV21Mf0wQDW7oF
For the record, and in the best interest of journalism,
I like Maple Walnut ice cream.
Mikey Z
September 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough for President!