by Peter Panepento
GlobalErie reader Mike raised an interesting question last week in response to one of the threads regarding Rick Schenker’s candidacy for Lieutenant Governor.
“I guess my question is what kind of candidate would people in Erie not gripe about?,” he asked. “The ’same old group’ gets criticized, Schenker gets criticized, Filippi and Sinnott have both been hammered, and then when a group like YEP forms they get hammered too. I’m guilty myself of being fed up with some of the crooked politicians, but sometimes I think people in Erie aren’t happy unless they are unhappy.”
I’m not completely sure this is something that is unique to Erie. Nor is it necessarily a bad thing. Politicians deserve a fair amount of scrutiny and criticism. And, let’s face it, there will always be naysayers from the opposite party, no matter which side of the aisle you fall on.
Without scrutiny, we run the risk of having elected officials who unfairly believe that they can say or do anything. We need checks and balances to make sure they are doing their best to represent their constituents and to do so fairly and ethically.
But I’m open to the idea that Erieites are more likely than those in other areas to eat their own.
So let me ask some questions.
First, do you recall a politician from Erie who has been almost universally respected and admired?
Second, do you think there are any people in the Erie community who would get a fair shake from the voting public if they decided to run for office?
I’d love to hear thoughts on this.
After more than six years working as a journalist in Erie, I'm now the web editor for the Chronicle of Philanthropy in Washington, D.C., and the publisher of GlobalErie.com. I still maintain close ties to Erie - a community that I care about deeply. I hope this Web site can help inspire a better future for Erie.
Matt Selker
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
There’s a mindset that exists in Erie. It happens to work successfully for the few who yield profits from the debilitating thinking and less for those who want to begin a generative conversation. Business grow in the direction of what they study. I would suggest communities grow in the direction of what they study. Best practices only take you so far. Think BLUE OCEAN; think about the residents or “customers” who haven’t even THOUGHT of Erie as a place to call home. What are they looking for? Break the mold and reinvent WHO WE ARE.
There exist a few, the ones who hold the key contracts or behind the scenes influence of local services and who receive benefits from government sponsored economic development projects. These folks will quietly subdue the proactive, positive thinking Erieite who has an interest in believing that Erie has tremendous benefits to offer all. What is our SHARED VISION of Erie? What is our POSITIVE CORE? What are our STREGNTHS and how do they INCLUDE those among us?
Words change worlds! When I attended my first class at Case and Dr. David Cooperrider made that statement, it forever changed my ideology. We can frame circumstances and situations anyway we choose. From debilitating to generative, the choice is ours. Instead of asking the question “do you think there are any people in the Erie community who would get a fair shake from the voting public if they decided to run for office?”, rather ask “What is our shared vision of an ideal Erie?”. From that question, we can discuss, “Based on our shared vision of an ideal Community, What would the leader look like that could lead us to prosperity?”.
Dan Desrochers--Community Blood Bank
March 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Peter,
Please let me weigh in on this. I am a regular reader & poster to this site. I currently work as Director of Marketing for the Community Blood Bank ( we supply all the blood used in 8 counties in NW PA & WNY, website at http://www.ourdonorssavelives.org) and I am running for Erie County Council District 4 against council president Whitey Cleaver.
I am wondering how I’ll get treated once people get to know my politics. I am running because I have done enough ranting and now I need to finally see if I can do it. The thing that actually put me over the edge to at least try was when in February County Council voted themselves a raise the same week as GE laying off 1500 workers. This means that not only was council NOT talking about how the current economic downturn will affect Erie County but they were talking about how much they can take. I realize the raise was small but it’s not the point. I have two kids and I worry about their future (let’s face it I worry about my future too!)
Summed up I believe in the Constitution, a document created NOT to give rights to citizens but in fact to limit the power of Government. I basically believe that in most cases your rights end where my wallet begins. Government should provide the basics: safety & infrastructure and order, so that everything else can take place. I think government is too big and spends too much. I work at the lowest cost blood supplier in the ENTIRE United States, so I know a thing or two about cost cutting. And no the blood bank isn’t government funded, but we are a non-profit.
I am running on a platform of lower taxes, smaller government and fiscal responsibility. You know, like we used to have.
My website is in its infancy but you can see a bit more at http://www.danforerie.com
Now let the piling on and smears begin!
Dale
March 24th, 2009 at 8:49 am
My wife has a theory that those who want to run for public office are not the ones who should.
As long as we’re mired in the two party system, over run by the same old political hacks, things will never change. Joe Sinnott has the potential to be a very good Mayor, if only City Council would put aside their pettiness and do the job to which they were elected.
I think we in Erie have been so trained to expect the worst from our elected officials that we don’t recognize a decent candidate when we see it!
Wizzle in the Hizzle fo' Shizzle
March 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I agree with Dale on City Council being a thorn. The Brain Drain has sucked the potential out of a lot of political bodies around Erie. If any of the local municipalities would catch on to the fact that we need to attract more diverse and unique tourism demographics:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/03/24/naked.travel.recession/index.html
TonyF
March 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I feel that Lou Tullio was universally respected and admired. He worked at being liked. His many re-elections are proof. I am not sure he was of a mindset to “advance” Erie. He just wanted everyone happy.
I cannot think of anyone in the Erie community who would get a fair shake if they were to run for public office. Definitely, no Republican unless it was Tom Ridge. The only Democrat who might get a fair shake would be a popular name which is familiar to the voter. Erie voters are not platform oriented, they seem to stick with the familiar names to play it safe.
Mike
March 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I wonder if it’s a matter of people who run for office that are crooked that, as Dale says, shouldn’t run, or if it’s the whole political system is in such bad shape that it negatively influences even the good candidates.
A friend of mine says that the more money people make (celebrities, political figures, etc) the goofier they get. I think the more political power people get, the more corrupt they get also. You could make a fair case of that happening to Fillipi when he was mayor.
To answer Peter’s questions, I don’t remember a politican in Erie ever being universally respected or admired. It’s more a case of which are despised less by the public.
I also don’t know if there’s a candidate out there that would make the majority feel good. Many don’t care for the career politicians (Leone, Maras etc), and recent candidates from different backgrounds such as business owners (Divecchio), religious (Schenker), lawyers (Fillipi, Sinnott), have all received some harsh criticism.
I’m not sure what the answer is, but I think getting a few leaders who a aren’t lifetime residents of Erie, and don’t have all the agendas that many of the lcoal career politicians do would be a good start. If nothing else, it would bring fresh blood and a new perspective into the mix.
TonyF
March 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I wish it weren’t true but fresh blood will never win in Erie.
George Vietze
March 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
There is no perfect politician and Erie is certainly no perfect municipality given its economic condition. The current Mayor, it seems to me, is doing a creditable job given the circumstances and the hand that he has to deal. With very little money to work with he and his staff has mananged to work with grants and programs and has succeeded in major re-development activity that has moved this City forward. With programs coming to the Erie area and a new Bayfroint Master Plan to work with more progress is planned. If the community gives he and his staff the political support necessary, maybe more of the City Council and others will also seek that political capital and join the Mayors program of re-developing the City. Pay this Mayor the salary commensurate with his responsibility and maybe good City government is closer than we think.
George Vietze
March 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I adminitedly have not met or known many of Erie’s past or even present politicians but I have met Kim Green and John Elliott both of whom represented their office’s extremely well both personally and professionally. Kim representing the Mayor’s staff is doing a great job with the Mayor’s redevelopment program. John Elliott has a strong background in economic development and a dedicated, competent, more spiritual person would be difficult to find and the County and the entire area benefits greatly from local people of this caliber. If this community could get people of this caliber to run for office and serve with the same dedication in higher offices the entire area would benefit. Instead of looking for people to ” beat up”, maybe we should look for proven people to “move up”.
Dale
March 24th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
You’re right, George!
There is nothing I would rather see than a complete new slate of elected officials, from mayor on down through council and all the elected offices. My ideal situation would be for an age cut-off for anyone OVER 50. Instead, use the older folks in an advisory capacity, for they do have valuable experience, but allow the young, idealistic, ambitious people to take on the task of rebuilding Erie’s spirit and hope. Eliminate political parties from the local elections–let everyone who wants to run do so. Then let the people decide on three or four through a popular vote, allow two months for spreading the platforms around, then have a simple majority vote. Simply eliminate entirely the old, worn out political party system, and all the graft , corruption, and patronage will be gone.
Why would it not work?
Jim
March 25th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I think you have to go back in time to find examples of what Peter is talking about. Naturally everyone’s opinion varies, but I would suggest that we have had both well respected republicans and democrats holding office in the Erie area. I would offer Fred Lamberton and Bill Hill as examples, both county commissioners prior to home rule charter, and Bill Hill went on to work with veteran’s affairs after holding elected office. Another well respected politician was Bill Sesler a state senator. Bill, a democrat was also well respected by republicans. Forest Hopkins, a state representative from North East was also well respected far beyond just his district, as was Jim Merry from Linesville who represented the west county area. Granted these were all in the past, but I think we have seen many examples of good people serving in the past.
I would submit that home rule charter and the strong mayor reorganizations of county and city government created safe districts, with it no longer necessary to look out for the greater good to survive politically. As these people become politically safe, the battles become personal rather than issues oriented. Personality and style over substance, which doesn’t serve the public well. I maintain it is hard to be successful under such circumstances.
Matt
March 28th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Peter:
I agree with Jim that “safe” districts and the elimination of ward / district voting has caused many of the issues that we face locally. If you look at Erie and Millcreek as two examples – local representatives can be elected from the same area and virtually neglect the regions of the municipality that do not have the votes necessary to get them re-elected. A proposal to split the City Council and possibly Millcreek Township Supervisor regions into smaller districts should be proposed to make elected representatives more accountable. Water and Sewer issues in Millcreek and neighborhood blight issues in the city would be eliminated or reduced if elected officials were residents of those areas.
On another note, a new initiative on the statewide level is working to promote participation by young voters in the political process. The initiative is called YouLead and several members from the Erie community are becoming more involved with the initiative.
More information – including video from this week’s press conference – can be found here.
http://www.pasenategop.com/news/archived/2009/0309/wonderling-032609.htm
George Vietze
March 28th, 2009 at 7:26 am
The suggestions allowing elected officials to be voted “at large” and not by local disticts is a must in Erie and the introduction of legislation giving more incentive to young people is very forward looking, but the local problem of the “old guard” and political abuse dooms large when the community is against polluting its environment and the political powers laugh in their face and just do what they want with impunity.
The time has come to look into community referendum’s or legal ways to demonstrate that the community will no longer allow itself to be taken over by interests that do not have their well being as a priority.
I don’t know what the law is that will overturn those types of decisions by the community, other states have referendum laws that require a majority of the electorate to pass a referendum to overturn that type of abuse.. If the community just stands by year after year and allows these decisions to happen, they will continue.
It is time to reward good government and change abusive power of the right to govern community interests.
TJ
March 28th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
This is the nature of politics and a democracy. They who appease the greatest majority wins. Griping about politicians will never stop. If it were to cease, I would question the state of our constitution.
anonymous
March 31st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Erie needs a candidate that is NOT from Erie. A person that has NO political baggage or agenda and can get things done. The way the laws are written in PA, only a city worker can fix the financial mess the city officials have created. This is absolutely ridiculous. You will never fix Erie’s financial problems unless you bring in an outsider.
This idea was brought to the Mayor, City Council, State Representatives and Council of Cities in Harrisburg with NO response but that you have to change the PA laws to allow a outside third party to come in.