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	<title>Comments on: Erie Scores Wicked Low on Latest Forbes List</title>
	<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/</link>
	<description>by Peter Panepento</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: George Vietze</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8601</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vietze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broadening our educational opportunities to the residents of this area who are economicaly disadvantaged and have been educationally deprived because of socialeconomical conditions seems like a good way to spend money.  Not everyone has the backround or money to attend other higher educational opportunities and this area may have a disproportianate number of people who would afford themselves to this opportunity.  This would also broaden the attraction to this area for the people or companies who would consider investing and moving here.

Educating our city and state government about the reasons that this area needs to become more business friendly also needs to be built.

Commentors like Jim have been trying to "educate" them and us about efficient productivity and ways we can improve our return on dollars invested.  I don't completely understand why the "politics" would won't to be unfriendly to business investment and can only conclude that they themselves need more "education" on ways to improve.  It also seems to me that some residents also require some "education".  My sense is that some people feel that if it cost money to build a school or whatever the "project" is and it doesn't benefit "them" directly, the money should not be spent.  Senior citizens and older people don't sometimes feel that a community college is going to directly effect them and is going to raise taxes and therefore do not build one.  An education on the importance of a broader view and perspective that the more vibrant a balanced economy is for the entire area the better all of us will be in the long run.  This site has been helpful in educating me on what makes this area what it has become.  The politics, the history, the attitude of the residents, the culture of the area has been enlightening to someone that has recently moved here.
My sense is that Erie has turned the corner, albeit, slowly and is on the move!  A lot of people are working very hard to move this area forward.  I even noticed that attitudes on this forum have become more positive and supportive.  It is not important that we all agree on every point of every subject but it is important that we keep an open mind and that we "educate" ourselves in the areas that others have more incite and experience.  This forum could be more effective in changing attitudes and contributing to our growth than we realize.  I thank all of you for the "education" that I, as a new arrival, have been exposed to.  It would have taken me years to accumulate the background and sense of the area that I have received reading your comments.  Jim and others have shared some very constructive views on economics and I can feel his frustration, Jim, don't give up, you are makeing a difference.  Danny Lucas, a wonderful spirit, whose sense of community comes through loud and clear, Danny, I know you don't agree with some of my views, especially my support of gambling in Pa., frankly I know gambling is a tax on the gamblers who fight the percentage but it is a "choice" that we can elect to do or not and people come from all over keep this area "GREEN" and Erie needs the money.  It is not about our different views but it is about contributing to the "spirit" of our community, that is what makes this area different from other communities, we have a community "spirit" that is unlike any other place I have been.  This has become a home not just a place to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broadening our educational opportunities to the residents of this area who are economicaly disadvantaged and have been educationally deprived because of socialeconomical conditions seems like a good way to spend money.  Not everyone has the backround or money to attend other higher educational opportunities and this area may have a disproportianate number of people who would afford themselves to this opportunity.  This would also broaden the attraction to this area for the people or companies who would consider investing and moving here.</p>
<p>Educating our city and state government about the reasons that this area needs to become more business friendly also needs to be built.</p>
<p>Commentors like Jim have been trying to &#8220;educate&#8221; them and us about efficient productivity and ways we can improve our return on dollars invested.  I don&#8217;t completely understand why the &#8220;politics&#8221; would won&#8217;t to be unfriendly to business investment and can only conclude that they themselves need more &#8220;education&#8221; on ways to improve.  It also seems to me that some residents also require some &#8220;education&#8221;.  My sense is that some people feel that if it cost money to build a school or whatever the &#8220;project&#8221; is and it doesn&#8217;t benefit &#8220;them&#8221; directly, the money should not be spent.  Senior citizens and older people don&#8217;t sometimes feel that a community college is going to directly effect them and is going to raise taxes and therefore do not build one.  An education on the importance of a broader view and perspective that the more vibrant a balanced economy is for the entire area the better all of us will be in the long run.  This site has been helpful in educating me on what makes this area what it has become.  The politics, the history, the attitude of the residents, the culture of the area has been enlightening to someone that has recently moved here.<br />
My sense is that Erie has turned the corner, albeit, slowly and is on the move!  A lot of people are working very hard to move this area forward.  I even noticed that attitudes on this forum have become more positive and supportive.  It is not important that we all agree on every point of every subject but it is important that we keep an open mind and that we &#8220;educate&#8221; ourselves in the areas that others have more incite and experience.  This forum could be more effective in changing attitudes and contributing to our growth than we realize.  I thank all of you for the &#8220;education&#8221; that I, as a new arrival, have been exposed to.  It would have taken me years to accumulate the background and sense of the area that I have received reading your comments.  Jim and others have shared some very constructive views on economics and I can feel his frustration, Jim, don&#8217;t give up, you are makeing a difference.  Danny Lucas, a wonderful spirit, whose sense of community comes through loud and clear, Danny, I know you don&#8217;t agree with some of my views, especially my support of gambling in Pa., frankly I know gambling is a tax on the gamblers who fight the percentage but it is a &#8220;choice&#8221; that we can elect to do or not and people come from all over keep this area &#8220;GREEN&#8221; and Erie needs the money.  It is not about our different views but it is about contributing to the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of our community, that is what makes this area different from other communities, we have a community &#8220;spirit&#8221; that is unlike any other place I have been.  This has become a home not just a place to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8580</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8580</guid>
		<description>I noticed we rank relatively well in "colleges" and yet at the bottom for "income growth" and "job growth".
Do I need to explain what this means concerning the arguments for a new community college? 
O.K., I will.  There is obviously no relationship in the local economy between availability of higher education and wages or job growth. When our citizens finish their education, they find jobs and leave.
Politicians who promote the community college do so to advance their own political power and in place of an economic growth agenda.
After careful consideration of all of the arguments for and against the expensive community college, I must conclude that there is not one legitimate argument in support of the plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed we rank relatively well in &#8220;colleges&#8221; and yet at the bottom for &#8220;income growth&#8221; and &#8220;job growth&#8221;.<br />
Do I need to explain what this means concerning the arguments for a new community college?<br />
O.K., I will.  There is obviously no relationship in the local economy between availability of higher education and wages or job growth. When our citizens finish their education, they find jobs and leave.<br />
Politicians who promote the community college do so to advance their own political power and in place of an economic growth agenda.<br />
After careful consideration of all of the arguments for and against the expensive community college, I must conclude that there is not one legitimate argument in support of the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: George Vietze</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8514</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vietze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8514</guid>
		<description>We alll have our reasons and perspectives for using this forum.  For me, these discussions give me a feel for the attitudes and perspective of the community which I choose to live.  I have chosen to invest in land in this area because believe, after many years or experience, that ownership of land 15-30 minutes from a community that has the attractions that Erie has and yet allows country living with open space, fields, woods, creek and a reasonable cost of living would be a great to live and retire.  My interest is to help communicate the current status of Erie because in the last few years, in my opinion, Erie is turning the corner.  The politics have improved, it seems, from the past and a more open-minded approach that involves local resident groups over-seeing and recommending changes.  The Chamber of Commerce, despite comments on this site, is working toward a more visible marketing program as are other local groups representing different interests.  For me, and I realize that others on this site differ in their view, the casino-racetracks investment in this area was a water-shed event.
It has and will continue to add revenue to an area that has a great need for that cash flow.  The casino/race track chose this area, in my opinion, beacause of its demographics of access to being within 500 miles of 50% of the population of the United States, according to a web page of one of our local groups.  The many attractions such as Presque Isle Beaches, Family Sports Park, Waldemer Park, Splash Lagoon and many other attractions plus nearly 5,000 hotel rooms, a convention center give the patrons a reason to stay in Erie longer which not only benefits the community business but adds to the revenue of all parties.  Our location, provided the Airport situation is resolved, makes Erie ideal for full gaming, which in my opinion, is in the cards (no pun intended).  This will also increase the horse industry because the State of PA. mandated by law that 12% of gaming revenue be set aside for racing purses thereby attracting top trainers and jockeys to Presque Isle Downs.
Breeding farms will migrate to Erie because the Pennsylvania Breeders Association have changed the rules to require PA bred horses to live in PA longer.  Race tracks in Ohio that do not have large purses and cannot effectively compete are now up for sale and soon breeding farms will slowly move to this area.

Based upon discussions on this site, if those opinions are to be believed, it is difficult to overcome the hurdles of a community and state that has been characterized as extemely unfriendly and costly to do business.  My hope is that this can be overcome, because a  community to be balanced and vibrant needs jobs that can keep our young talent employed at competitive wages.

I never met Danny Lucus, except by written communication,
the reason I speak of Danny, is that I witnessed, first hand, his emails to Peter Marsh of the Financial Times who wrote the now "infamous" "unfashionable" article about Erie, and Danny, with FACTS, eloquently changed that reporters perception of Erie.  That was a HUGE demonstration of what one person could do.  Much more than "e-no-mas" has contributed to this dialog.  This gave me an example of a long time Erie area resident who has defended his community and I exposed that story to out of state media, international media, political media,
CNBC, General Electric, research analysts who cover GE, and anyone else who would listen in an effort to attract media attention to Erie during the election, which as predicted, is going to be very instrumental in attracting even more media to Erie.  All because of Danny Lucus...because without that ONE RESIDENT, USING FACTS, this story had no legs.  Erie's favorite WINE is "Poor Me".  That wine is now outdated and I now suggest "NEW ATTITUDE".  I believe we will attract more media and investors in April, it is now up to local media, the Chamber of Commerce, the NW Mfg. Assoc., and other groups to do their jobs and present written report and up-to-date facts to the media and investors.  I believe that will happen, we need to give them a chance to do their jobs.  I hope that local business and restaurants and the residents of Erie join in and be a positive and real as they are able to be.  Nothing is going to happen over-night, and to answer the question of some commenters of how I can be so positive, because like Danny Lucas, it works better for ME, try it and let me know how it works for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We alll have our reasons and perspectives for using this forum.  For me, these discussions give me a feel for the attitudes and perspective of the community which I choose to live.  I have chosen to invest in land in this area because believe, after many years or experience, that ownership of land 15-30 minutes from a community that has the attractions that Erie has and yet allows country living with open space, fields, woods, creek and a reasonable cost of living would be a great to live and retire.  My interest is to help communicate the current status of Erie because in the last few years, in my opinion, Erie is turning the corner.  The politics have improved, it seems, from the past and a more open-minded approach that involves local resident groups over-seeing and recommending changes.  The Chamber of Commerce, despite comments on this site, is working toward a more visible marketing program as are other local groups representing different interests.  For me, and I realize that others on this site differ in their view, the casino-racetracks investment in this area was a water-shed event.<br />
It has and will continue to add revenue to an area that has a great need for that cash flow.  The casino/race track chose this area, in my opinion, beacause of its demographics of access to being within 500 miles of 50% of the population of the United States, according to a web page of one of our local groups.  The many attractions such as Presque Isle Beaches, Family Sports Park, Waldemer Park, Splash Lagoon and many other attractions plus nearly 5,000 hotel rooms, a convention center give the patrons a reason to stay in Erie longer which not only benefits the community business but adds to the revenue of all parties.  Our location, provided the Airport situation is resolved, makes Erie ideal for full gaming, which in my opinion, is in the cards (no pun intended).  This will also increase the horse industry because the State of PA. mandated by law that 12% of gaming revenue be set aside for racing purses thereby attracting top trainers and jockeys to Presque Isle Downs.<br />
Breeding farms will migrate to Erie because the Pennsylvania Breeders Association have changed the rules to require PA bred horses to live in PA longer.  Race tracks in Ohio that do not have large purses and cannot effectively compete are now up for sale and soon breeding farms will slowly move to this area.</p>
<p>Based upon discussions on this site, if those opinions are to be believed, it is difficult to overcome the hurdles of a community and state that has been characterized as extemely unfriendly and costly to do business.  My hope is that this can be overcome, because a  community to be balanced and vibrant needs jobs that can keep our young talent employed at competitive wages.</p>
<p>I never met Danny Lucus, except by written communication,<br />
the reason I speak of Danny, is that I witnessed, first hand, his emails to Peter Marsh of the Financial Times who wrote the now &#8220;infamous&#8221; &#8220;unfashionable&#8221; article about Erie, and Danny, with FACTS, eloquently changed that reporters perception of Erie.  That was a HUGE demonstration of what one person could do.  Much more than &#8220;e-no-mas&#8221; has contributed to this dialog.  This gave me an example of a long time Erie area resident who has defended his community and I exposed that story to out of state media, international media, political media,<br />
CNBC, General Electric, research analysts who cover GE, and anyone else who would listen in an effort to attract media attention to Erie during the election, which as predicted, is going to be very instrumental in attracting even more media to Erie.  All because of Danny Lucus&#8230;because without that ONE RESIDENT, USING FACTS, this story had no legs.  Erie&#8217;s favorite WINE is &#8220;Poor Me&#8221;.  That wine is now outdated and I now suggest &#8220;NEW ATTITUDE&#8221;.  I believe we will attract more media and investors in April, it is now up to local media, the Chamber of Commerce, the NW Mfg. Assoc., and other groups to do their jobs and present written report and up-to-date facts to the media and investors.  I believe that will happen, we need to give them a chance to do their jobs.  I hope that local business and restaurants and the residents of Erie join in and be a positive and real as they are able to be.  Nothing is going to happen over-night, and to answer the question of some commenters of how I can be so positive, because like Danny Lucas, it works better for ME, try it and let me know how it works for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Panepento</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8513</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Panepento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8513</guid>
		<description>Guys, let's stick to the topic and not take shots at each other.

I'd rather debate and discuss ideas rather than get distracted by trying to outdo each other.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, let&#8217;s stick to the topic and not take shots at each other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather debate and discuss ideas rather than get distracted by trying to outdo each other.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8512</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8512</guid>
		<description>Danny: We have been reading your comments for a while now and find that your positive spin on Erie and your critical comments of others who don't see things YOUR way seem not to be working.  Again, please tell us all what you have done to help fix this city's problems.  What do you propose needs to be done to keep Erie from going into an ACT 47?  You can continue to bull___t us with the line about meeting old friends in the Giant Eagle or you can get real and come up with concrete plans to fix a city that is virtually bankrupt.  The question then is are you really interested in saving this city or are you going to continue with your positive thought of the past.  Maybe you can look at it this way...Think of Erie as a patient in the emergency room of a hospital...the house is a blaze and the fire engines are outside.  What are YOU going to do to revive the patient?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny: We have been reading your comments for a while now and find that your positive spin on Erie and your critical comments of others who don&#8217;t see things YOUR way seem not to be working.  Again, please tell us all what you have done to help fix this city&#8217;s problems.  What do you propose needs to be done to keep Erie from going into an ACT 47?  You can continue to bull___t us with the line about meeting old friends in the Giant Eagle or you can get real and come up with concrete plans to fix a city that is virtually bankrupt.  The question then is are you really interested in saving this city or are you going to continue with your positive thought of the past.  Maybe you can look at it this way&#8230;Think of Erie as a patient in the emergency room of a hospital&#8230;the house is a blaze and the fire engines are outside.  What are YOU going to do to revive the patient?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8507</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8507</guid>
		<description>Sorry folks...I didn't mean for my original and heartfelt comment to send anyone over the edge. It appears a certain individual is wanting to take it outside and I haven't quite figured out why. Peter's blog really isn't the venue for this type of behavior so let's shake hands, play nicely and share some constructive thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry folks&#8230;I didn&#8217;t mean for my original and heartfelt comment to send anyone over the edge. It appears a certain individual is wanting to take it outside and I haven&#8217;t quite figured out why. Peter&#8217;s blog really isn&#8217;t the venue for this type of behavior so let&#8217;s shake hands, play nicely and share some constructive thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8495</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8495</guid>
		<description>please tell us what you propose to do about fixing things in Erie
---Anonymous (as usual, and again)

I will comment where I choose.
I will comment on what I choose.
I post my name for your convenience to avoid the pain of reading my penmanship.

You have the floor.  
Be my guest.  
Go first.
And, in the future, feel free to write on what concerns you. 

I already do just THAT in my comments.

Do not feel free to determine what others are interested in or even NOT interested in.  Big people can determine that for themselves.

The parameters of this forum are determined by a real person; not an Anonymous.  If you wish to dispute that, take it up with the blog owner, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please tell us what you propose to do about fixing things in Erie<br />
&#8212;Anonymous (as usual, and again)</p>
<p>I will comment where I choose.<br />
I will comment on what I choose.<br />
I post my name for your convenience to avoid the pain of reading my penmanship.</p>
<p>You have the floor.<br />
Be my guest.<br />
Go first.<br />
And, in the future, feel free to write on what concerns you. </p>
<p>I already do just THAT in my comments.</p>
<p>Do not feel free to determine what others are interested in or even NOT interested in.  Big people can determine that for themselves.</p>
<p>The parameters of this forum are determined by a real person; not an Anonymous.  If you wish to dispute that, take it up with the blog owner, not me.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8492</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8492</guid>
		<description>Danny: Since you seem to have an answer for everything on this board, please tell us what you propose to do about fixing things in Erie. We are not interested in your ramblings, we are interested in what you have done.  Tell us all what accomplishments you have made to date to fix the major financial problems of this city.  Tell us also what you have done to attract business to Erie. We really are not interested in your fantasies or who you met at the Giant Eagle when the city is on the verge of bankruptcy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny: Since you seem to have an answer for everything on this board, please tell us what you propose to do about fixing things in Erie. We are not interested in your ramblings, we are interested in what you have done.  Tell us all what accomplishments you have made to date to fix the major financial problems of this city.  Tell us also what you have done to attract business to Erie. We really are not interested in your fantasies or who you met at the Giant Eagle when the city is on the verge of bankruptcy.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8482</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8482</guid>
		<description>I forgot the wonderful subprime game in Florida and the flea market mentality of sales of anything to avoid taxes too James, but that was not worth the typing. 
My week in Erie this week is.

I shopped at Giant Eagle on 26th and Peninsula. When I got to the cashier, she yelled out loud to me: 
"WHERE have YOU been?".  We smiled grandly at one another.

I explained my travels and returns and we caught up on the children; hers and mine. I have never been to her home.  I do not know her family or where she lives.  We just always talked in the shopping lane. Her pregnancy years ago was obvious and she was gone away (her turn).  Upon her return to Giant Eagle, I asked for pictures of the new child.  She showed me and gave me the name too. I slipped that note into my Bible as I have a habit of praying for our youth.

Years went by.

This week, I ran into Tammy for the first time in a long time, and she blurted out the above declaration. I asked again about the child and she said she has added two more.  I asked for pics anew. She wrote down the names of the new two additions to Erie citizens, knowing full well the slip of paper ends up in my Bible and whoever is on the page I open, becomes the apparent one selected by God for prayer.

The irony?  This conversation is repeated at all shopping places I visit in Erie.  I have had the same experience precisely once elsewhere (New Holland, PA, an Amish woman - she remembered my name after a single visit and it was a month before my return) in all the places I have lived.  
It is a way of life in Erie and a duty everywhere else.

My wallet is empty compared to yours James, yet, I am the wealthiest guy I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot the wonderful subprime game in Florida and the flea market mentality of sales of anything to avoid taxes too James, but that was not worth the typing.<br />
My week in Erie this week is.</p>
<p>I shopped at Giant Eagle on 26th and Peninsula. When I got to the cashier, she yelled out loud to me:<br />
&#8220;WHERE have YOU been?&#8221;.  We smiled grandly at one another.</p>
<p>I explained my travels and returns and we caught up on the children; hers and mine. I have never been to her home.  I do not know her family or where she lives.  We just always talked in the shopping lane. Her pregnancy years ago was obvious and she was gone away (her turn).  Upon her return to Giant Eagle, I asked for pictures of the new child.  She showed me and gave me the name too. I slipped that note into my Bible as I have a habit of praying for our youth.</p>
<p>Years went by.</p>
<p>This week, I ran into Tammy for the first time in a long time, and she blurted out the above declaration. I asked again about the child and she said she has added two more.  I asked for pics anew. She wrote down the names of the new two additions to Erie citizens, knowing full well the slip of paper ends up in my Bible and whoever is on the page I open, becomes the apparent one selected by God for prayer.</p>
<p>The irony?  This conversation is repeated at all shopping places I visit in Erie.  I have had the same experience precisely once elsewhere (New Holland, PA, an Amish woman - she remembered my name after a single visit and it was a month before my return) in all the places I have lived.<br />
It is a way of life in Erie and a duty everywhere else.</p>
<p>My wallet is empty compared to yours James, yet, I am the wealthiest guy I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8480</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.globalerie.com/blog/2008/03/20/erie-scores-wicked-low-on-latest-forbes-list/#comment-8480</guid>
		<description>"You don’t know what you’re talking about Danny Lucas because your totally wrong."
----James

I guess that Florida Driver's License in my wallet makes me the wrong source to comment on West Palm Beach and Tampa.  
I guess my 3 years of living in Allentown/Bethlehem (city number 30?) would preclude thoughts on Pennsylvania.  

And, my year in Phoenix and year in Portland, Oregon were clearly a waste of information gathering.  Uh, I graduated high school in Chicago so I best be silent on the midwest too.

Traveling 48 of the 50 states in my life certainly gives me no personal insight into the people, territory, or pluses and minuses of these myriad spots.

And, my first hand experiences in all these places coupled with a lifetime of returns to Erie,Pa would put me smack in the middle of James' statement.

As James would say, "your wrong Danny"
As Danny would say, "you're wrong Danny"

I will let the readers decide right or wrong James.
I impose my opinion on no one.

I will add this,... after life in all the towns you site.
In the event of a major depression like 1929 til 
World War II, there are many areas of the country where people are going to turn on one another big time.  
There is no cohesive connection.  Of all the areas I have travelled on the Globe, I would prefer most distinctly to reside in Erie, Pa in the event our country went south economically into a Depression.  The quality of the people make the difference in ALL of those locales I site.  I know I can depend on friends and neighbors here.  
You know it too.

I barely touched on the disaster that is growing in Florida, nor life with a transient population base, the effect that has on taxes for the locals, gang warfare, why the 2000 election occurred the way it did in Florida, and the lonliness of the retired spouse left behind after death of their partner.  They always leave Florida and go back from whence they came.  Some wise up sooner.


"I won’t share with you any numbers but I can assure you we’ve all financially benefited more than any of us could have imagined compared to how we would have had we chosen to stay in Erie."
-----more James

If someone want to live a life of accumulating and benefitting financially, Erie may or may not be their best choice (Florida proved better for my brother, but he killed bugs for a living and bugs hold worldwide reunions daily in the Sunshine State).

But my daughter met a young man and we sat down to discuss his future. I asked him what he wanted to do with his life. He told me that he wanted to stay in Pennsylvania, but he wanted to go to Philadelphia and teach inner city children phys ed.

I replied that he would never become wealthy that way as the pay is low and the work demands are enormous (and growing worse).  I added: "You won't grow rich, Jon,.....
but you will lead one of the most rewarding lives a person could live.  You will improve the life of those less fortunate than you. I am proud of your choice".

So far, Jon has yet to tell me "your wrong Danny Lucas".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You don’t know what you’re talking about Danny Lucas because your totally wrong.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;-James</p>
<p>I guess that Florida Driver&#8217;s License in my wallet makes me the wrong source to comment on West Palm Beach and Tampa.<br />
I guess my 3 years of living in Allentown/Bethlehem (city number 30?) would preclude thoughts on Pennsylvania.  </p>
<p>And, my year in Phoenix and year in Portland, Oregon were clearly a waste of information gathering.  Uh, I graduated high school in Chicago so I best be silent on the midwest too.</p>
<p>Traveling 48 of the 50 states in my life certainly gives me no personal insight into the people, territory, or pluses and minuses of these myriad spots.</p>
<p>And, my first hand experiences in all these places coupled with a lifetime of returns to Erie,Pa would put me smack in the middle of James&#8217; statement.</p>
<p>As James would say, &#8220;your wrong Danny&#8221;<br />
As Danny would say, &#8220;you&#8217;re wrong Danny&#8221;</p>
<p>I will let the readers decide right or wrong James.<br />
I impose my opinion on no one.</p>
<p>I will add this,&#8230; after life in all the towns you site.<br />
In the event of a major depression like 1929 til<br />
World War II, there are many areas of the country where people are going to turn on one another big time.<br />
There is no cohesive connection.  Of all the areas I have travelled on the Globe, I would prefer most distinctly to reside in Erie, Pa in the event our country went south economically into a Depression.  The quality of the people make the difference in ALL of those locales I site.  I know I can depend on friends and neighbors here.<br />
You know it too.</p>
<p>I barely touched on the disaster that is growing in Florida, nor life with a transient population base, the effect that has on taxes for the locals, gang warfare, why the 2000 election occurred the way it did in Florida, and the lonliness of the retired spouse left behind after death of their partner.  They always leave Florida and go back from whence they came.  Some wise up sooner.</p>
<p>&#8220;I won’t share with you any numbers but I can assure you we’ve all financially benefited more than any of us could have imagined compared to how we would have had we chosen to stay in Erie.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8211;more James</p>
<p>If someone want to live a life of accumulating and benefitting financially, Erie may or may not be their best choice (Florida proved better for my brother, but he killed bugs for a living and bugs hold worldwide reunions daily in the Sunshine State).</p>
<p>But my daughter met a young man and we sat down to discuss his future. I asked him what he wanted to do with his life. He told me that he wanted to stay in Pennsylvania, but he wanted to go to Philadelphia and teach inner city children phys ed.</p>
<p>I replied that he would never become wealthy that way as the pay is low and the work demands are enormous (and growing worse).  I added: &#8220;You won&#8217;t grow rich, Jon,&#8230;..<br />
but you will lead one of the most rewarding lives a person could live.  You will improve the life of those less fortunate than you. I am proud of your choice&#8221;.</p>
<p>So far, Jon has yet to tell me &#8220;your wrong Danny Lucas&#8221;.</p>
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